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I had a nearly identical anecdote. I was driving my car to work soon I had moved to the Bay Area. I wanted to know what city I was currently on.

"Hey Siri, what city am I in?"

"Calling Ian"


Was Ian able to help, at least?


The correlation is unambigous. The causation is a different story, e.g. illnesses often cause weight loss.



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Physical pain is subjective too. What isn't?

It also appears all the qualifiers are removed, for example

* Often appears not to be listening when spoken to

* Frequently loses items required for tasks and activities

* Is frequently easily distracted by extraneous stimuli

* Often forgets daily activities

* Is frequently reluctant to engage in tasks which require sustained attention

and so on.

Everyone forgets a name or a word every once in a while and that doesn't mean they are senile, yet we recognize senility exists past a threshold.


and theres nothing subjective about a broken leg, no two doctors would disagree on a broken leg like they would disagree over mental health conditions. you meant to say physical "health" is subjective, ie what we class as "unhealthy".


No, I meant to say physical "pain", which is why we have subjective scales (1-10, faces) and one can't tell if someone's just faking it for drugs


but the threshold is vague and arbirtary.


As it is with the other examples. So if it can't be measured it doesn't exist? Is this the dead spirit of Robert McNamara?


>So if it can't be measured it doesn't exist? Nah. If its vague and arbitrary maybe it should be the basis of a medical condition


Then I guess it's a good thing you're not a doctor, because that's life -- trying to make the best of subjective/incomplete information


Additional context.

> Symptoms and/or behaviors that have persisted ≥ 6 months in ≥ 2 settings (e.g., school, home, church). Symptoms have negatively impacted academic, social, and/or occupational functioning. Inpatients aged < 17 years, ≥ 6 symptoms are necessary; in those aged ≥ 17 years, ≥ 5 symptoms are necessary.

Clearly these aren't saying "have they ever misplaced anything?" or "have they ever forgotten anything?". Sure, most people have had some of these things happen some of the time. Yeah, all kids find homework boring, but most kids are still able to do it. Most kids forget things, but aren't losing multiple coats every winter. Most people aren't experiencing these symptoms to such a degree that it significantly impacts their ability to function.


Most people aren't experiencing these symptoms to such a degree that it significantly impacts their ability to function.

it only has to negatively impact academic, social or occupational functioning - according to the patient or parent. ie its subjective, anyone can claim to be having a bad time and that "hey i forget things, im a clutz!" now i have adhd.


i'm confused as to why you think you're suddenly the arbiter of the lived experience of others? all of the questions you're asking are things that are easily found online, but something makes me think you're not after knowledge.


Are you really here trying to claim that ADHD is not a real developmental disorder? To a bunch of people who have lived all their lives with ADHD?

Yes, the symptoms of ADHD are mostly things that most people experience sometimes in their lives. The reason it's a disorder is because they occur commonly enough to affect our lives.

This is not that dissimilar from many other neurodivergencies and mental health issues: Many people feel anxious from time to time. Many people enjoy the rush of gambling from time to time. Most people do not have clinical anxiety or gambling addiction.

Next time you're tempted to come into a thread of people talking about a widely-recognized developmental disorder or mental health problem and drop your superior wisdom that actually, it's not real, and you're much more rational and intelligent than we all are, because you can recognize that the diagnostic criteria are "subjective," which is the same as saying they're meaningless, please consider turning off your computer and going outside instead.


> Many people feel anxious from time to time...Most people do not have clinical anxiety.

This is the point Im trying to make to you. Just because youre forgetful, awkward socially, clumsy or find things boring - you dont have a disorder.


Pain is entirely subjective and self reported, but we are still pretty sure it exists, and we have medical treatments for it.


And with ADHD youre saying im more clumsy than normal, but we cannot define normal and we cannot even define abnormal - its completely upto the patient to say if they think its abnormal - unless its a kid then its normally the parent making the claim


Pain is a symptom not a disease

Im not saying clumsiness, anxiety or forgetfulness dont exist either


Does fibromyalgia exist? Tension headaches? What about chronic fatigue or irritable bowel syndrome? How are they diagnosed?


Pain is a symptom of all those diseases, which is why is said "Pain is a symptom not a disease"


Yet the threshold is vague and arbitrary


Whats that got to do with clumsiness and forgetfulness being a disease?


They are all subjective, arbitrary, "not observable", "in the mind", "not objective"


Given that tens of millions people have been treated for bipolar disorder with Lithium Carbonate, shouldn't researchers have already seen a correlation with Alzheimer's in patients?


Lithium carbonate was tested and didn't help the mice at all because it was just absorbed by the plaques. The exciting thing is they found a form of lithium (already commonly available as a supplement) which is not absorbed by the plaques and showed a reversal of symptoms with P=0.00007. That's the kind of statistical significance I like to see in my medical papers.


From the abstract of the paper:

  > Replacement therapy with lithium orotate, which is a Li salt with reduced amyloid binding, prevents pathological changes and memory loss in AD mouse models and ageing wild-type mice.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09335-x

Another source on lithium orotate:

  > LiOr is proposed to cross the blood–brain barrier and enter cells more readily than Li2CO3, which will theoretically allow for reduced dosage requirements and ameliorated toxicity concerns.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8413749/


The important part is this: “a Li salt with reduced amyloid binding”

If cells in the brain are being deprived of lithium due to sequestration by amyloid beta plaques, then a bioavailable form of lithium that is resistant to sequestration may treat the pathology.


Hold on a second here; how is the anion of a soluble metal salt going to affect what happens to the cation after they separate?


Quoting the paper:

> We reasoned that the electrostatic interaction of the Li ion with Aβ deposits would be a function of the ionization capacity of the salt, and that Li salts with reduced ionization might show reduced amyloid sequestration. To assess ionization directly, we measured the conductivity of 16 lithium salts. Inorganic Li salts, including the clinical standard lithium carbonate (Li2CO3, hereafter LiC), showed significantly elevated conductivity, indicative of increased ionization, relative to organic Li salts (P = 8 × 10−4; Fig. 5a and Extended Data Fig. 7a). Of the organic Li salts, lithium orotate (C5H3LiN2O4, hereafter LiO) showed the lowest conductance across a broad Li concentration range (Fig. 5a and Extended Data Fig. 7a) and was therefore selected for further comparison with the clinical standard LiC.

From my not-exactly-expert understanding: lithium is a teeny tiny cation, and it can form compounds on a whole spectrum from ionic to covalent-ish. The authors are observing that lithium orotate does not fully dissociate in water.


Definitely, good point


For the past 9 years, Android has allowed users to disable location permission per app. More recently, you can choose to share "noisy" location, which just provides an approximation of your location.


Google will never stop spying themselves but will give you the ability to stop their competitors from spying on you. Heh..


The issues identified really show a dumpster fire: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o2=greaterthaneq&sh...

Directly from Entrust: "Yes, there has been ongoing internal discussion and reflection on the issues found in this and other incidents, which has led to the action items described previously and ongoing changes, including the decision to revoke the certificates affected by this bug. Exceptional circumstances would need to be provided and justified by the Subscribers. Given the nature of the feedback we have received to date, we doubt that the community has any real interest in anything that Entrust could suggest, except to use against Entrust in a destructive, not constructive, way. We therefore would like more explicit and clear guidelines or a definition of “exceptional circumstances” to be adopted and applied equally to all CAs, perhaps through updates in the CA/B Forum requirements."

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888714


A honest translation from the corporate speak would be

We’ve been endlessly talking about our repeated screw-ups, which led us to revoke the affected certificates. If subscribers want an exception, they need to come up with an extraordinary excuse. We don't care, so we demand clear and strict rules about what counts as “exceptional circumstances” that apply to all CAs, and these should be updated in the CA/B Forum requirements. We are big, who are you?

... it's not promising


Maybe work with a specialist attorney on the license if you haven't already?


Ignore


Why would IBM buy Canonical when they have RedHat already???


I'd probably just look for the numbered IP addresses with these 10 digits that serve up NS or SOA records, and go from there.


I don't want to be that guy, here's a nice summary of what you missed, since the creator is so inconsiderate when it comes to accessibility:

The video introduces us to Alex, a 13-year-old in 1997, who is Hispanic and living with his dad and stepmom. At this point in his life, Alex's family has a net worth of just $2,000, and his parents are not particularly supportive or involved in his life. Despite these challenges, Alex expresses a sense of optimism about his future. This optimism is shared by many teenagers, as evidenced by a survey from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, which includes 9,000 participants followed from their adolescent years into adulthood.

The video then shifts to highlight the importance of childhood experiences, as research by Vincent Fidi published in 1998 would later reveal. This research indicates that traumatic and stressful events during childhood can have profound, lifelong effects on an individual's health, relationships, financial security, and overall well-being. The video follows 400 of these survey participants, focusing on those with uninvolved parents, those who have been bullied, and those growing up in risky home environments. It tracks adverse experiences such as parental drug use, being held back or suspended from school, and witnessing violence.

By 2001, the participants are in their senior year of high school. The video examines the adverse experiences these students have faced, noting that Black and Hispanic youths are disproportionately represented among those who have experienced multiple negative events. These experiences often correlate with academic performance; students who face more adversity tend to struggle more in the classroom. The video also introduces the concept of "emerging adulthood" as a period between childhood and adulthood, during which college can provide a supportive environment for young adults to navigate this transition.

By 2010, some participants have completed a four-year college degree, with a clear trend showing that those who had fewer adverse experiences in childhood are more likely to have attended college. The video also highlights the financial struggles of those from less privileged backgrounds, many of whom are still grappling with the economic implications of their challenging upbringings.

In 2021, the long-term impact of childhood adversity is starkly evident. The participants' life outcomes, including income levels, health issues, and overall happiness, show a direct correlation with the adverse experiences they faced as children. Alex, whose story we have followed, is now 37 years old, living with his partner and two kids. He has struggled with his weight and health throughout his adult life, and his annual income remains around $20,000. The video concludes by emphasizing that the circumstances of our youth significantly shape our lives and that systemic factors play a significant role in individual outcomes. It calls into question the blame placed on individuals for their life circumstances and suggests that the collective responsibility to support young people is essential for breaking cycles of adversity.


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