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Yeah this is a good one. I’ll add it. It really is so bizarre, it takes like three unlocks.

As the list of bugs grows, it would be helpful to have some sort of floating table of contents / quick navigation component to quickly navigate between bugs - just an idea :)

I thought about adding that bug but it seemed like “search doesn’t work in this other thing” was just going to get repetitive (despite being true and annoying AF) and I had already spent way more time on it than I should have. Put in a pull request, tho. Happy to add it!

Huh. How else would you get a massive company that has let certain bugs sit for decades to address them? This method is probably just as ineffective as reporting another bug into the Black Hole of Bug Reports that is Apple, but this one is at least mildly funnier? YMMV of course.

But the bugs never existed in the first place? I hate HN is rife with inflammatory complain pieces like this.

The search bugs in Mail are absolutely real. They might not affect every user but I've had major issues on both macOS and iOS mail, and eventually gave up and switched to Gmail.

Have you checked if it’s the fault of your mail providers? The search function queries the remote mail servers in addition to the local cache. If the mail servers return garbage you get garbage results.

This was with an iCloud email address.

Maybe iCloud search is rubbish.

Mail search works flawlessly for me with Gmail and Outlook. It takes a sec but the results are always relevant.


As I used to ask field teams and PMs back when I was a SWE - provide the steps to reproduce the bug as I can't seem to recreate it.

I experience at least five of those bugs daily and it makes me so frustrated: Hotspot, airdrop, mail search, corner drag, text selection.

You're not wrong — but actually the prompt I gave it was "invert Apple's design style." I think it did a reasonable job?

It’s just Claude code house style, it’s as identifiable as Bootstrap. It didn’t invert Apple anything.

Speaking of AI-induced delusions, why did you submit this to HN?

It made me cringe to see its AI prose in AI code with completely made up bugs (really, the Mail search bar doesn’t work?), with made up numbers based on made up things as the spine of the content.


They're real bugs all right - have you ever tried to search a gmail account via apple mail?

I can report it works fine, needed it to pull up 13 year old emails for me a couple months ago.

QNTM's There is no Antimemetics Division. It was a free set of short stories that he self-published. They were so good he got a publishing deal, and now you can buy the reimagined version at any bookstore. I personally prefer the original. Easily my favorite book of the last 5-10 years. https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/antimemetics-division-hub

There’s also Rivian. My R1S is my favorite car I’ve ever owned and this is going to be their “Model 3 year” when the R2 comes out. There’s also Lucid and Zoox.

And the Chinese manufacturers, of course. If you haven’t been outside the US lately you don’t realize just how popular BYD is everywhere but here. I’m in Thailand at the moment and they are everywhere. Mexico too.


We are on the waiting list for the Rivian R2. Looks promising! The other Rivians are too big. I am in Canada and we don't really have access to many Asian made EVs.


So let’s add a world model!


Sorry, no. Hanlon's razor is usually smart and correct, for the majority of cases, including this one.

In this case, it is a huge stretch to ascribe DOGE to incompetence or to stupidity. Thus, we CAN ascribe it to malice.

Elon Musk and Donald Trump are many things, but they are NOT stupid and NOT incompetent. Elon is the richest man in the world running some of the most innovative and important companies in the world. Donald Trump has managed to get elected twice despite the fact (because of the fact?) that he a serial liar and a convicted criminal.

They and other actors involved have demonstrated extraordinary malice, time and time again.

It is safe to ascribe this one to malice. And Hanlon's Razor holds.


Setting aside the concept of "stupidity" for a second because it's too hard to generally define for the sake of argumentation, one can absolutely be successful at some things and incompetent at others. Your expectations of their overall competency, as with most assumptions of malice, is what fuels your bias.


Agree completely. Every human is successful at some things and incompetent at others.

I am not making any assumptions of malice, unless we’re getting into “malice is just a perspective, there is no such thing as malice, it’s just your interpretation” in which case the same can be said about incompetence or stupidity and there’s no point in having this conversation in the first place.

But assuming that’s not the case, one must only look at Elon’s X tirade yesterday against Somali Americans, calling the actions of those who help them treasonous, inciting violence against them, etc, to see malice. Or look to Trump’s frequent similar incitements of violence, stirring up of hatred towards immigrants, snatching people off the streets, outright lying, justifying the bombing of noncombatants in fishing boats, etc, to see malice. Both of these men have played social media like a fiddle, cynically playing off the basest fears of human beings for their own personal enrichment, and it has given them extraordinary power and wealth, all while feigning being good people.

If that isn’t malice, what is?


I like the cut of your jib.


I think literally this whole post is about doing stuff on your iPhone that Apple doesn’t want you to do. So maybe start with TFA?


"Stupid" doesn't seem to be the right word to apply to a man who has managed to (annoyingly) command the attention of the entire world and who has gotten himself elected as the most powerful man in the world twice.

I do not like the man. I find his behavior to be corrupt, immoral, and unethical.

And I also do not hesitate for one moment to admit that he is a singular figure in history who has a deep understanding of human beings and how to exploit them. That may not be classic-elite-intellectual-book-smartness, but it is some kind of smartness, and far from stupid.


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