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> When you talk to most EU business owners, even in tech, the limiting factor isn't regulations.

I have a tech startup in Estonia and I agree. To me the biggest limiting factor is lack of funding.


The root cause of that is the lack of a true Capital Market union.

In the US, you can get VC across state borders and VC can invest in any US company regardless of their location. Not in the EU.

Investing in an Estonian startup from, say, the Netherlands is near impossible. And even if managed, now that NL investor has to repeat the entire process for Poland, Spain, Malta and other countries.

EU Made Simple explains this very well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RqYws1JAuI


> Investing in an Estonian startup from, say, the Netherlands is near impossible

If anything this would be due to Dutch regulations rather than Estonian ones. So that would be more of a problem for setting up VCs in the EU rather than attracting capital in general, as the same would apply to the rest of the world. Is it easier for a US or Singapore VC to invest in an Japanese startup vs an Estonian startup? As far as I know the answer is a "no", but I'm happy to be proven wrong.


This is because there's no unified capital market.

A texas VC can invest in a startup in Chicago and a startup in Florida can raise money from NY and so on.

> If anything this would be due to Dutch regulations rather than Estonian ones

Yes, because there's no unified capital market. You describe an effect not the cause. With 27 member states, if such regulations are bi-directional, you'd need 351 of such "regulations". If one way, you'd need 702.

In the US with 51 states, there aren't a total of 1,275 "regulation contracts" between all states, there's one, and it's federal.


Thanks for the video!

Yep, VCs don't exist here. Plus the absurd starting costs, it's like what, 20k to set up a GmbH?

I'm sure there's at least one US state where it's a pain to set up a company. So startup founders don't set up in that state but in Delaware, or recently maybe 1-2 ones. Germany is that state for the EU where it's a pain, so you set up your legal entity elsewhere.

Not needed in the beginning. You can start an UG (mini GmbH) for 1 euro and then convert it into a proper GmbH later.

Technically yes, but it costs thousands per year for upkeep and again thousands plus 1-2 years of time to shut it down again.

After waiting 3+ months for the Finanzamt to respond.

In countries that have it. In Slovenia we have no such legal entity and so starting a business requires, at the very least, ~400€/month for a single proprietorship (unless you are already employed elsewhere already, then it's <100€) or even more for an LLC-type company (since it requires one fully employed person at a level above minimal wage).

2.5k EUR in starting capital, and two founders to start a a limited liability company (AB) in Sweden, and a 240 EUR processing fee: https://verksamt.se/starta-foretag/valj-foretagsform/aktiebo...

And you register online.


Depends on the country.

Opening a company in Estonia is very cheap but in Spain the manager/CEO needs to be an "autónomo" (like a self-employed tax status). This costs thousands of Euros per year. Something like 2,400-30,000 Euros per year, every year, forever.


And that's probably one of the big obstacles in the EU: there's no common ground for these things. At least this will hopefully be addressed: https://www.reuters.com/business/eu-propose-uniform-rules-st...

What does it matter that the rules for establishing differ per country? I'm only founding in one of them.

The article is unclear, but is probably referring to making it easier for startups to offer products in other EU countries.


The idea is to establish common rules to make it easier to register and move startups between countries, among other things.

It's in very early stages, so info is very scattered. More info, for example, here: https://www.loyensloeff.com/insights/news--events/news/the-2...


So what? There's no common ground in the US either, and it's not an issue there.

> In addition, water is almost never wasted, only moved around.

Technically yes, vapor goes to the atmosphere etc. But in certain areas, data centers are effectively removing water that was previously used for farming.

https://www.context.news/ai/thirsty-data-centres-spring-up-i...


It's great. I wish they released a JS/TS version though.

A custom language that basically depends on a single guy is a hard sell.


Yes it's TS and types compatible. What about Rails or Redis or Linux? The most brilliant projects I know come from one person. Everything is hard to sell if you don't have corporate money stream for marketing :) No?

> What about Rails or Redis or Linux?

Linux and Redis have funding and millions of users. So much depends on these projects. Rails is less popular these days but still a project with a long history, financial backing, and a huge ecosystem.

Imba has some brilliant ideas and Sindre is extremely smart... but IMO the decision to go with a custom language has hurt the project more than it has helped. It won't work with any of the tooling around JS/TS. Development is also extremely slow. More than 4 years after announcing v2 here on HN[1], it still hasn't been released.

The reality is that almost nobody is using Imba and it currently sits at about 2000 weekly downloads on NPM with no growth. Even Mithril which is also super niche has more downloads than Imba [2].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28196158

[2] https://npmtrends.com/imba-vs-mithril


In terms of simplicity Mithril is pretty great. Personally don't love the hyperscript syntax but it can be used with jsx.

Also Preact but the mental model is closer to React.

And Vue can be used from a script tag without a build step too.


Youtube with ads would be even worse

Sounds like extortion or Stockholm syndrome when you put it like that.

It used to be very good maybe 5 years ago.

Maybe but why make the experience worse for the actual users who are not abandoning for TikTok?

Maybe Steinberg is getting ready to add CLAP to their software?

Fly was supposed to fix Heroku but my bill more than doubled since they changed how they charge for shared CPUs.

https://community.fly.io/t/cpu-quotas-update/23473


Can anyone comment on how Disco compares to Dokku?

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