Disregarding the rules of the game because "the elite cheats anyway" is a terrible idea. There's a reason those rules still exist and politicians pay their lives and livelihoods to get to and stay in power.
There are cheaters and people making.. "clever use of game mechanics", let's say. But the vote does matter.
In fact, one of the main reasons the system is so broken today is because there isn't enough vote. Trump, like Obama, was able to get to power by inspiring people to vote.
> They didn't get there where they are because of paying attention to your opinion but because of ignoringt it.
You know, if it was that easy, I'd be the one sitting on billions of dollars right now.
>> Disregarding the rules of the game because "the elite cheats anyway" is a terrible idea.
We have to play games all the day where "the other party cheats anyway". But there are only two games where your efforts to make things work out are divided by 140.000.000. Election and lottery.
>> There are cheaters and people making.. "clever use of game mechanics", let's say. But the vote does matter.
Yes, votes does matter. And your vote matters as well. But its relevance is divided by 140.000.000. Good luck, man!
>> In fact, one of the main reasons the system is so broken today is because there isn't enough vote.
And this is because the non-voters have better things to do with their lives than playing the sucker's game.
>> You know, if it was that easy, I'd be the one sitting on billions of dollars right now.
Only because we could not cheat our way to the top does not mean that the people at the top are saints. Maybe they are just better cheaters than you and me.
Where are you pulling that 140.000.000 from? You're so focused on it.
Once you remove the percentage of people who don't vote and take the electoral college into account, that number is way lower and we haven't even begun to touch how one person can mass influence votes.
Just because you yourself have one single vote doesn't mean your voice is one in a sea of hundreds of millions. Far from it.
> And this is because the non-voters have better things to do with their lives than playing the sucker's game.
Why do you think so much effort is spent on preventing various inconvenient groups of people to vote?
It's funny how a lot of people downplay their own voice in a democracy. You have far more influence than you can imagine.
You strike me as quite terribly close minded though, and I don't really feel like convincing people when they adopt such a cynical attitude, so if you're actually interested you can read the excellent Dictator's Handbook by Bruce Bueno de Mesquita.
I know. It is kind of "occupational disease". I do statistics.
>> Once you remove the percentage of people who don't vote
Not voting is also a voting. In fact it is voting against all of the candidates and / or against the voting system.
>> Just because you yourself have one single vote doesn't mean your voice is one in a sea of hundreds of millions.
Actually it does. Having one single vote among hundreds of millions means having only one single vote among hundreds of millions.
>> It's funny how a lot of people downplay their own voice in a democracy.
You mean the people who can divide 1 by hundreds of millions? It's funny how not all of the people can do the math.
>> You strike me as quite terribly close minded
You are right. Just because I have a different opinion than you I am terribly [put some negative attribute here].
My take on democracy: you have the right to build your own opinion and talk about it and you have to accept the opinion of others as well as the fact that they talk about it, even if you do not agree with them. Not agreeing with you does not mean being [put some negative attribute here] and you do not have to convince others of your being right.
You're close minded because you refuse to hear arguments out, not because you disagree with me. I don't think you even realize where you actually agree with me, since you're reading hostility in my replies.
There are cheaters and people making.. "clever use of game mechanics", let's say. But the vote does matter.
In fact, one of the main reasons the system is so broken today is because there isn't enough vote. Trump, like Obama, was able to get to power by inspiring people to vote.
> They didn't get there where they are because of paying attention to your opinion but because of ignoringt it.
You know, if it was that easy, I'd be the one sitting on billions of dollars right now.