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> If I remember correctly each extra 50hp above the base costs ~10k

Upping the fuel pressure and changing some maps should not cost the consumer $10k. The markup in that is ridiculous.

> Should Deere honor the warranty in this case of those who did the hack?

So long as the hack didn't cause the problem they are legally obligated to honor the warranty.



> So long as the hack didn't cause the problem they are legally obligated to honor the warranty.

I agree. The problem is that you could update the software to void the warranty, then do a factory reset when you have problems. Deere would never know that you operated the tractor outside of the parameters that they designed, built, and tested, but then they would be on the hook for it.

> Upping the fuel pressure and changing some maps should not cost the consumer $10k. The markup in that is ridiculous.

My numbers probably aren't that accurate, but they're not selling just software in that case. They've already bought an engine (for cheap) that is capable of that horsepower. They just don't realize the cost for it until they actually upgrade.


It likely costs 10k at an average. The point isn’t that it costs $0 to upgrade software. It is that Deere gives a lower price on high spec bc they under price the low spec. They get higher volumes on engine technology bc they use software to meet many customer’s power needs. If Deere made made a perfectly sized engine for every make and model with no software variation they would be idiots and have even higher priced machines. I have no love for the monopoly these companies have on the farmers of the world but the people against Deere here are drastically simplifying agriculture’s OEM business model.

The simple part of this argument is the right to repair part. Deere should just sell their service tool at a profit and provide software updates to the customer and not just dealers. Then we would be done with this right to repair argument.


> the people against Deere here are drastically simplifying agriculture’s OEM business model

That's their problem, not the consumer's. Once you buy something you should be able to do anything you want with it. I don't see any problem if they sell detuned engines and consumers retune them to get the HP back.


Industry standard is $1000 per horsepower. Belarus tractors made in Minsk offer at least 30-40% less markdown after 120 HP. Available in Canada.




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