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if you ask normal people, they will hate this - only some data fanatics want this feature.

people die. the economy is suffering. millions lose jobs. still, some guys making 140k in their it engineering jobs working from home and relaxing are telling me sth about "data privacy as priority". i disagree. people disagree.

Taiwan did a FANTASTIC job leveraging data.

we are either not capable of that or just fanatic.... maybe both.



The German tech scene struggled for about a month to stop the senseless data hoarding of the centralised digital contact tracing approach that was spearheaded and developed by a bunch of lobbyists. You might disagree with the concept that developed, and is generally accepted in a majority of Europe, but it's certainly not "the people" being against that.

The when and where of individual encounters, especially at low levels of infected population, are pretty irrelevant. At this point you should really be aware of how you can change your behaviour to minimise risk, that really hasn't changed in the past few months.


several people still remember the Stasi and they don't want a state controlled app to monitor their movement. If you want your app to have the biggest installation base (without asking for a mandatory installation) you can't ask for user location, with it enabled fewer people will install it


... the same people that shop on amazon, use "payback" (a shopping monitoring system), post crap on facebook and enjoy google's personalisation.

Please, mate, this is just populism what you are doing there.


My family was directly affected by Stasi. I care about what the government knows and what it can do to you. I constantly have 2-3 low risk exposure notifications.

But it doesn't matter where they happened since I already know that I am carefully avoiding risky areas. I am sitting next to my window when working and people walk past that window within 2 meters. That alone could set off exposure notifications. Or maybe someone across the aisle in the supermarket?

Would I not go to the supermarket if I know it happened there? Would I not go for a walk if I knew someone 8 meters away from me on some bench was later diagnosed with COVID?

It barely serves any purpose at all outside of curiosity. The app already tells you everything you need to know.


Please don't compare anti-consumer behaviour of US mega-corporations with the atrocities that intelligence services behind the Iron Curtain committed on their own peoples. It's simply not in the same ballpark.


I take it you haven't lived under a communist regime?

There's a difference between what you share willingly and stuff being collected on you, especially in private matters.


Not everyone shops on amazon but everyone would have to install a government mandated app. You're overgeneralizing every human.


What if I have no app-capable smart and mobile device? Does the government provide me with one? Do I get an electronic ankle bracelet instead? What about a collar?


Government mandated implants are more efficient



There's a huge difference between the government and private organizations.


> people die. the economy is suffering. millions lose jobs.

So when the app tells you to quarantine, you quarantine? Or it is important enough to share everyone's location data, but not for people to more radically adjust their behaviour rather than just avoid a particular location?


> if you ask normal people, they will hate this - only some data fanatics want this feature.

Show the evidence. Wanting data privacy is far from the fringe minority sentiment you imply it to be, otherwise GDPR wouldn't be so popular.


The only people who like gdpr and cookie banners are lawyers and agencies who can charge some money for that


Citation neeeded.


life and death vs annoying ads. i think there is a difference, mate.


There should be another solution that doesn't bring stasi level monitoring...




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