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This already happens. I have not been trained to fly an airliner, but I believe that the priority is something like stall, gpws (flying into the ground), tcas (flying into other traffic), master warning, and master caution. These all have their own lights and sounds in the cockpit, and if I know them, so does the flight crew. Presumably the 150 messages that needed to be looked at were all "caution" messages. Too many messages, yes, but nothing that endangered the safety of the flight.

In the AF447 case, the crew was getting the stall warning. They did the exact opposite of what you are supposed to do to recover from the stall. Computers were not the problem. (The same thing happened to that Colgan Air flight a few years ago. The crew reacted to the stall warning by stalling the plane even more. The plane tried to physically force the controls to nose down, which is how you recover from a stall, but the pilots fought it. Bad UI was not the problem. Bad flying was.)



Yeah, I don't know about the a/c in question; however, the Colgan crash was a result of the pilot fighting the stick pusher and winning. The stick pusher is not easy to override.

It seems counter intuitive to nose down when you're falling out of the sky, but it's how you recover.


Exactly.

If one were to apply principles of Tao, it would be to yield. Give the stick pusher nothing to push.


      The plane tried to physically force the
      controls to nose down,
I'm glad you mentioned that. I thought that's what a plane should do at first, and then on second consideration wondered if the psychology of panicking pilots would be to fight the controls in order to wrest the plane from going down.


It does seem like that happens. Wikipedia links to a few incidents involving the stick pusher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stick_pusher




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