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That’s too extreme.

Plenty of good journalism that is critical of the government and “the establishment” happens in the US[0][1]. There are also cases where 100% legit journalism is unreasonably attacked and punished. Both of these things can be true; we don’t have to declare the US as either 100% perfect and free or 100% corrupt and authoritarian where every single instance of “real” journalism results in torture and murder.

[0] https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/newsplus/finalists-fo...

[1] https://theintercept.com/2021/12/26/us-military-impunity-gen...



> We don’t have to declare the US as either 100% perfect and free

We can still demand it. And if they only achieve 90%, we don't have to lower our expectations to 90%, or soon enough they'll be achieving 81% and so on.


Sure, great, I commend you. What does that have to do with the nonsensical claim that all real journalism in the US results in imprisonment, torture, and/or murder?


How is it nonsense when we have a concrete example (Assange) that proves it’s true?

You can criticize the government but if you air their Real dirty laundry you’re going down.


It has to do with the part that I quoted.


Also, Edward Snowden can always come back to the USA and have his day in court. (Though then again, they allowed Jeffrey Epstein to be murdered so maybe he's safer in Russia)


That's true. The US gov only needs to intimidate enough, more authoritan reactions on journalism wouldn't stop the people still risking it either.




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