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Yes it would be better if it didn't have those features in the same way that I would pay more for a Burrito if someone had not taken a shit in it.

I might be a weird edge case. I do all the things you say but the recommendations totally suck for me. I only watch videos I like. I watch a lot of videos. If I ever watch something I didn't like I remove it and thumbs down and yet all the recommendations are total garbage.

Edit to add: i get that shorts, mix and music are things some people like. I really don’t and I hate that mix I can’t remove at all and shorts I can remove for 30 days and then it comes back. It feels like google is doing this sort of dark pattern bs more and more.

That said: I have been convinced by people pointing out how much more valuable premium views are to people who make the stuff I watch so have subscribed. Makes me puke just a little bit to say that.



> that I would pay more for a Burrito if someone had not taken a shit in it.

It sounds more like you’re unhappy to be getting 2 burritos and you’d rather get only 1 for the exact same price.

Just don’t watch the shorts. All they are is a line on the homepage. I ignore it.


No, it sounds more like you are being served your burrito with a cocktail, even though you are trying to quit cold turkey.

On another note, I find it highly offending that somebody tries to shove something down my throat, even though I explicitly refused it. No, I do not want shorts on the home screen, or anywhere else. Let me own my screen real estate, after all, this is supposed to be a premium service?


What is up with the entitlement?

I mean I don’t like shorts either and I don’t like how YouTube is “shoving” them as you say, but how are you under the impression that just because you pay fifteen bucks a month you get full control over how the homepage looks? Your logic applies to every single pixel on their website.

Shorts are a feature of YouTube. You don’t have to use it or look at it, and it only shows up on the homepage or when you’re looking at other shorts. It’s really not unreasonable.

If you want to pay and not get shorts but still get good content just subscribe to nebula, it’s also fantastic value, just as YouTube is.


They take up real estate that I need for more suggestions because only about 1 in 50 suggestion is good.




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