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The battery of a 20$ Casio F-91W alone, will outlive several Apple watches.



I know Americans enjoy the lowest consumers electronics prices in the world but in Europe it's at least 20 Euros which is more than 20 USD and even at 20 euros it's difficult to find, with most shops asking for more than that.


Indeed. €28.86 = $31.08 USD at Amazon Germany: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Casio-F91W-1-Classic-Black-Digita...

SEK 587.14 = $54.23 USD at Amazon Sweden: https://www.amazon.se/Casio-Herrar-Digitalklocka-hartsrem-F-...


Partly this is that Amazon isn’t as cheap in Europe. It’s £10.99 ($13.81) including 20% VAT at Argos in the UK.


That's true, but in continental Europe I definitely can't find it under 20 Eruos in any shop. UK is also an exception for low consumer prices.


I remember paying $7 for mine at Walmart. It was on clearance.


It's crazy how much cheaper stuff is in the US compared to Europe.


So buy here and take it home.

You'll quickly find that the price differences mostly reflect some combination of various laws and taxes. E.g., I recall reading (pre-Brexit) that UK law required shops to have a two-year warranty period for durable items sold. As in, you bought it from them, you could return it to them and get a new item. Or make them deal with the warranty. In the US, almost anything other than dead-on-arrival can (doesn't always, but can) require the consumer to ship it in the original packaging to the manufacturer's service center at their own cost. That is not a free service. And there may be tariffs involved.


Remember that prices in Europe include sales tax, so the price you see is the price you pay. In the US you need to add sales tax on top, and in some places all sorts of random extra charges like ‘employee healthcare mandate’.


It's completely self-inflicted.

Duties, tariffs, out of control regulations and taxes to pay for underperforming civil servant's pension funds. It all adds up.


Also worker protections, public safety nets, and a general desire to not let corporations chew up and spit out people as if they were iron ore.


Workers protections have nothing to do with consumer prices.


Cheap at twice the price.


At the moment (Saturday June 10 7:29 pm ET) it's $13.90 here: https://www.amazon.com/Casio-F91W-1-Classic-Resin-Digital/dp...



The battery of a 20$ Casio F-91W alone, will outlive several Apple watches.

While I'm with you in spirit, I'm not sure that's strictly accurate.

The F-91W battery is rated for 10 years: https://support.casio.com/storage/en/manual/pdf/EN/009/qw593...

The calculator version (which I use) is rated for three years, assuming you only let the alarm go off for 20 seconds per day, and use the calculator function for less than one hour per day: https://support.casio.com/storage/en/manual/pdf/EN/009/qw320...


     use the calculator function for less than one hour per day
I really want to meet a person who is hammering away at the calculator function on their watch for more than an hour per day. That would clearly be the coolest person in the world.


I think people with calculator watches are way cooler in a sea of people with smartwatches.


Clearly the selling point of F-91W is the price. I think most owners are comfortable with roughhousing their F-91W and just buying a new one


> The F-91W battery is rated for 10 years

What would you consider the average life of an Apple Watch? If it's 5 years, OP is right.


What would you consider the average life of an Apple Watch? If it's 5 years, OP is right.

I'd say the Apple Watch is too new for anyone to know. I still use my six-year-old Apple Watch.


You must be fun at parties.

CASIO is known, and I can vouch for this from experience, to be very conservative with their numbers: with a quality cell 7 year battery life usually means about 10, 3 year battery life usually means around 5, 30m water resistance usually means over 50m in practice, 30seconds/month accuracy usually means around 10 or even less, etc.


Dude, we're all nerds. None of us are fun at parties. No need for the sarcasm!


The F-91W is the only watch I’ve owned in the past 20 years but I mostly go without since the strap breaks after a year or two.




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