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Array Languages for Clojurians (2020) (appliedscience.studio)
106 points by simonpure on Dec 14, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments


Jeeze, the overlap of people who are interested in Clojure and array langs couldn't exceed the low double digits.

Well, if you are among that sort of masochist and you like Clojure and APL, you could play with libapl-clj: https://github.com/jjtolton/libapl-clj

I haven't touched it in awhile because honestly whether your coworkers do APL or your coworkers do Clojure they will hate you if you use this. Ye be warned.

God forbid there's interest in it we could add more support... but there are like 75 significant systems engineering and architecture questions you should be prepared to either answer or blithely ignore before using this Frankenstein's monster.


Interop to APL from Clojure is completely wild and masochistic indeed. Hadn't seen this, thanks


I tried making Dyalog bindings but wasn't smart enough to figure it out at the time based on the info available and I doubt much has changed regarding either my intelligence or information availability there. But it would be awesome!


> Not reimplementing APL instead

Come on, step it up! https://github.com/phantomics/april

EDIT: damn, didn't see it already got linked


Other work on integrating APL and lisp is here: https://github.com/phantomics/april



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"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

"Don't be snarky."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


why?


It isn’t a suitable language for data science and lacks the ecosystem of Python.

For example, people will write Eden files to parse data, which involves creating a really complex DSL for every file for import.

They will try to use Datomic as a database, which requires using datalog and does not scale.

The worst part is the clojure users are convinced it is somehow better, and ignore the business use case.

I feel bad for companies because it clearly isn’t a good fit and those devs will hire all their friends and do nothing for five years.

This happened at an organization doing cancer research, so the selfish cultists ruined a chance at understanding immunotherapy by focusing on writing clojure rather than doing science.

Recursion pharmaceuticals also had this problem, and had to rip out all of the clojure from their system.


Datomic doesn't scale? Quick, tell the largest bank in South America, they must already be collapsing under the weight of all those transactions!


It’s a closed source POS with unpredictable performance. Talk to people who have actually been forced to use it and many have terrible experiences.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16170955


Yeah? Like poor little mom and pop shops like Walmart?


I’m glad they are wasting Walmart’s time and money.




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