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I don't think I've ever espoused that opinion! I like CentOS a lot. I had a beer with Karanbir in London in 2009, and I'm totally impressed that they're able to put out an incredibly popular Linux distribution with next to nothing, resource-wise.

But if I were a sysadmin, would I run CentOS in production? Is CentOS perfect? I'd say no on both counts, and I think there's nothing wrong with saying "There's room for improvement, and we think we've done better."



but at what price? at the price of losing centos because oracle are a predatory monster driven solely by greed?

put it another, more constructive way: wouldn't it be better to help centos rather than try to kill them? why not take that route?


I'm having problems with seeing why CentOS may cease as a result of this move from Oracle and Mr Daher.

CentOS is free, so as long as the sponsors continue to sponsor the work on CentOS and as long as whoever pays for the servers &c continues to do so, the project can continue.

Scientific Linux and PUIAS exist for other reasons than commercial server provisioning and those reasons will probably stay around.

The CentOS and Scientific Linux forums contain useful information, the mailing lists contain more technical information. Oracle won't to my knowledge be providing self-help forums or other community features as they wish to package support as a product. I can imagine Oracle Linux users who do not require support dropping into, posting to and contributing to the CentOS and SciLi forums.

How will CentOS (or another clone) be impacted to the point of extinction by Oracle Linux? Am I being dense here?


Most users of either one will likely not contribute anything at all back besides simply being part of the "network effects". I'm not a fan of Oracle either, but your rhetoric is in the red zone...


you're right i'm angry. i'm sorry if it offends you. but still, i don't see what you're argument is. are you saying that because i am angry and "rhetorical" it's ok to switch to oracle?

is noticing that i am angry somehow going to make everything work out? when centos folds and oracle decide to "raise margins" me being angry will make centos come back?

because if not, i would suggest worrying a little less about my emotional state and a little more about the future of your operating system.


I don't use CentOS actually, I'm fairly happy with Ubuntu, and if I didn't use that, I'd go back to Debian.

For many years I was a Debian package maintainer, and Debian got by ok without much corporate support, despite the existence of Redhat.

In other words, your thinking is way too zero-sum. I think there's room for both. Perhaps the competition will make Redhat think about their model some too, improving things for everyone.




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