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Nothing will come of this. Germany, for some reason, really doesn't like the idea of monitoring citizens messages.

Anything that eventually passes will be extremely toothless.



German politicians love surveillance. I guarantee the CDU and AfD would immediately support this.


The AfD would support it? They seem like one of the more freedom focused parties in Germany.


The AfD came out against chat control in a 2023 press release via one of their MPs. Their 2025 platform reads well at first glance (against surveillance, pro open source, against censorship, in favor of individual data sovereignty), but it is relatively vague and feels a bit buzzwordy.

In addition to that, the AfD is not known for being predictable.

The party lacks a strong institutional core. It is shaped by competing factions, with a weak internal agenda-setting process and a tendency to align with whatever the decision maker closest to making a statement currently perceives as fitting their brand. Positions often shift as a result.

For example, they made a strong commitment to protecting cash, then later pushed for a mandatory payment card system for refugees, explicitly to tighten financial control over that group. In practice, that dramatically helps to normalize financial control through payment systems.

So, TL;DR: no one really knows. They’re inconsistent and hard to forecast.


They equally don't like their private messages being scanned as they like to peek at others'. Personally don't look at mine but my job is looking at yours, nothing personal.




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