When I moved to iPhones a few years back (death of Windows Mobile, and I wasn't suffering Android again, see every reason under the sun why), I set some really hard limits on not being in the ecosystem. It's a good phone, but I won't buy paid apps, do not accessorize beyond a case. Everything I use tends to just be client apps for things I do on the web at a desk.
(Apparently a few years ago was... like six years. Dang the base model iPhone 11 got me really far.)
Same. I switched from Windows to macOS three years ago, and I tried my best to only use cross-platform softwares (or none at all, in many cases where websites suffice). Thanks to Electron many apps work on both Windows and macOS nowadays.
It’s insane to me that you deify their computers so much. It’s just the only popular computer company that has a coherent set of high level APIs and good hardware. It’s sad that they’re the only one but it doesn’t make them God
Right? These comments are so bewildering. I like the design and UX, and the promise to at least a bit more privacy, but if I had to use android or windows or Ubuntu tomorrow, it’d be another device that I use. How you could even expend so much of your time to think about computers more than necessary to use them, much less worship a brand, is beyond me.
I think both of you entirely misread the top level comment.
He's saying that owning and using an Apple product requires you to engage in behaviors akin to worship, I imagine e.g. accepting Apple's way of doing X as correct by default (~worship) rather than wanting to customize something based on your thoughts and preferences (questioning).
But that’s just as wrong. Apple products are definitely opinionated, but using a product that’s meant to be used a specific way doesn’t have anything to do with worship? If your personal preferences overlap with Apples design choices, good for you; personally, I prefer to not having lots of ways to tinker with irrelevant details, because I’m very susceptible for that kind of busywork that keeps me from focusing on actual work. But if you feel otherwise, there’s a wide range of alternative products to choose from.
The insistence of some people that Apple products are the devils work because they don’t fit their personal preferences is bogus to me. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.
Exactly. Opinionated products are great for those who share the opinion, and for everybody else there’s other products. It’s personal preference, and nobody is “wrong” for preferring one platform above the others.
Could I get along on a Windows or Linux box if I had to? Sure. I even have multiple of both as single-purpose machines. I’m not going to enjoy it, though, and I’m going to end up spending way too much time and energy tweaking either to fit my preferences (being Mac-like). There is no Linux desktop or Windows release that I could put to use as a daily driver without getting pulled down the customization rabbit hole.
> He's saying that owning and using an Apple product requires you to engage in behaviors akin to worship
It doesn’t at all, though. Many things can’t be customised on all computers. Am I worshipping my TV because they only give a few selections for power off time?
You’d never say that for everyone else who puts some restriction on their hardware or software that we must worship them, so why for Apple?
I’m often surprised at how strong these things run. And while I would prefer to use a mac than anything else for a few reasons, I find it very strange when my boss praises me for being the only one who is happy making sure our software works on Windows mac and Debian, as if it’s some kind of superpower to not throw a tantrum for having to use a different computer
