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Sure, I'm all for protection for white hats, although I don't think is at all relevant and don't see this as a particularly prominent practical problem in the modern day.

> If a company has a security hole that leads to disclosure of sensitive information, it should be fined

What's a "security hole"? How do you determine the fines? Where do you draw the line for burden of responsibility? If someone discovers a giant global issue in a common industry standard library, like Heartbleed, or the Log4J vulnerability, and uses it against you first, were you responsible for not discovering that vulnerability and mitigating it ahead of time? Why?

> such fines can be used for rewards.

So we're back to the award allocation problem.

> This creates an actual market for penetration testing that includes more than just the handful of big tech companies willing to participate.

Yes, if you can figure out how to determine the value of a vulnerability, the value of a breach, and the value of a reward.





You have correctly identified there is more complexity to this than is addressable in a HN comment. Are you asking me to write the laws and design a government-operated pentesting platform right here?

It's pretty clear whatever security 'strategy' we're using right now doesn't work. I'm subscribed to Troy Hunt's breach feed and it's basically weekly now that another 10M, 100M records are leaked. It seems foolish to continue like this. If governments want to take threats seriously a new strategy is needed that mobilises security experts and dishes out proper penalties.


> You have correctly identified there is more complexity to this than is addressable in a HN comment. Are you asking me to write the laws and design a government-operated pentesting platform right here?

My goal was to learn whether there was an insight beyond "we should take the thing that doesn't work and move it into the government where it can continue to not work," because I'd find that interesting.




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