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It really is wild the degree to which you can simply dictate your own mood.

If I catch myself feeling grumpy or down, it is pretty easy to reframe and summon genuine happiness.

Even during intense suffering of various kinds. To a large extent you get to decide which universe you live in.



> To a large extent you get to decide which universe you live in.

It's a naïve view of the spectrum of human experience.

I'm a believer in the HSP theory. Some of us are wired to feel things more strongly at a low level. There's only so much the thinking part of the brain can do before getting completely exhausted and overwhelmed.

Not to mention the vast difference in life experiences. From the yuppie that has everything in life, to the person from a broken home who had to fight for everything. Or simply someone that has children vs the childless adult.

I have friends who are like what you describe. From my pov, they seem to lack much depth of emotion at all. And they don't even realise it. But I think it's also just how each of us are.


This sound like Barney from How I met your mother.

But are you sure it isn't your general mental state that is able to handle it? E.g. the chemicals in your brain allow you to reconfigure yourself like that?

I haven't been able to reframe anything, even though years of therapy, however I have been in different states, that I think are clearly introduced chemically.

E.g. I go running, I get a high for 20 minutes, I feel like I can handle anything and I'm on top of the World, however after 40 minutes I get a comedown and I despair everything. Unable to fight any of it.

Similar things with drugs. If I feel bad, I feel bad. If I feel good, I feel good. If somehow I am feeling bad and feeling like I could feel good again, it's probably because my chemical state changed to allow for that...

I feel like I'm slave to my chemical state, and my thoughts whether they are productive or not productive are coming after the fact, and I'm observer to all of it. When I try to reframe or fight the thoughts consciously it just causes unease and tension and will make it worse.


I think this is a little silly and stretching the language a bit.

I agree entirely with what you're saying about being able to reframe a mood. I feel relatively in control of my emotions, and am normally the person to try bring a positive spin on a bad situation.

However, the happiness I get from reframing something is exactly that. It's "happiness", relative to the immediate recent sadness.

If you accept that there's any nuance or scale to happiness, then I think it's incorrect to say that happiness relative to reframing something bad is equivalent to "genuine happiness" of e.g. the success of a loved one, or a major life celebration.


> It really is wild the degree to which you can simply dictate your own mood.

This is not a universally true experience, and it's sometimes even hard for me to believe that there are people like you out there who are able to change their mood just by thinking differently. My own experience is that doing that is about as helpful as thinking differently about how hungry I am works to sate my hunger. I can ignore it to some extent, but it doesn't change in kind.


This is a bit surprising to hear.

So what should I have done when my parents died?


There is no "should". Everyone grieves differently. Whats right for GP commenter isn't necessarily right for you.

That said, what do you want to optimize for? Time spent grieving? Money spent on the funeral(s)? Money spent on therapy? Time spent in therapy? Lack of having to change as a person? Having to change as a person? Grieving "correctly"? (to reiterate from above there is no right way, but some people think if they're not doing it "right" there's something wrong with them.)

Just not killing yourself from the pain of it all in the next 5 years?

Honoring their lifes properly? Doing a good job of stepping into your new role in your family? Getting revenge for some transgression you can no longer tell them they did to you?


Maybe feeling less sad?


I'm sorry, grief is the worst.

To attack the sadness directly, which is a result of chemicals in your brain, there are specific other chemicals you can add that will raise serotonin and norepinephrine and also dopamine. It's not the most sustainable solution, however. Other ways of boosting those neurotransmitters include running real hard, getting a tattoo, having sex.

Processing the emotions, possibly with the help of a professional, is the recommended long term solution though. It won't bring them back, but it'll help understand the pain, and hopefully heal it.


Ah come on that’s not what they’re talking about. Feeling a bit down — sure some upbeat music may nudge you out of it, but loss like losing people isn’t being fixed with a mixtape.




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