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Why Torvalds?




I think he/she is talking about avoiding both Windows and Linux

Yes, I am asking why avoid Linux too?

Maybe the monoculture that many kids nowadays think UNIX === Linux?

I don't think the kids these days know that UNIX exists.

UNIX is also basically irrelevant unless you are talking about macOS technically being UNIX, so I agree with the kids.

The idea that Linux is a monoculture is also hilarious to me. That umbrella includes things like RHEL, SteamOS, Bazzite, Android, Chromebooks, Gnome, KDE, dwm, i3, your robot vacuum, car infotainment systems..."Linux" is the exact opposite of a monoculture.


All powered by the Linux kernel, the very meaning of monoculture.

Also it isn't as if BSD, FreeRTOS, Aix, INTEGRITY, SmartOS, Illumos, QNX,... don't exist.


But it’s not a monoculture because they’re wildly different applications of the technology.

It’s also not a culture at all because it’s a kernel.


FreeRTOS is an odd one in that set.

It also has good enough POSIX support.

> Aix

This is more a limitation on the architecture - virtually nobody has power arch hanging around to play on.


As owner from Red-Hat and Linux contributor since 1998, IBM isn't certainly blocked by choice, they also have Linux for the same architecture, which Aix customers could switch to and don't.

I mean, AIX essentially _does_ not exist unless you happen to work in an enterprise or are in a similar environment that has it. It's not something to easily get your hands on – esp. not "as a kid".

Ragebaiting/hater comment

not linux, specifically linus. its just a shame hes still attached to the kernel

Okay, so why avoid Torvalds? I am not sure what part of him you find objectionable.

What would be the point of avoiding linux?

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Have you...worked in software before?

His skills are applied to being essentially the product manager of the Linux kernel, just like any other senior engineer of his age and experience.

It's better that he not write code because he can have greater impact steering the direction of the kernel and reviewing others' work.

I'm also not sure why you don't like the guy on such a personal level. He only made Linux and git because he didn't have an alternative that worked for him. What did he ever do to you?

I watched the video of him hanging out with Linus from Linux Tech Tips and I thought he seemed like a relatively personable guy. Maybe he's somewhat opinionated on technology and wrote an angry email or two but certainly not a bad person.


>Have you...worked in software before?

working in it right now. and I can guarantee you anyone acting like linus better have made themselves indispensable because you wont last long lashing out like a 13 year old in emails to people. im still amazed he managed to convince a woman to like him


I don’t think he regularly lashes out to people in emails, it’s happened a small handful of times in the span of decades.

And the difference between him and your typical product manager is his email chains are public.


> it’s happened a small handful of times in the span of decades.

bit of an undersell... hes famous for it. people have left kernel dev because of it. difference between him and your typical product manager are the internet fanbois who treat him like a god. typical product managers have soft skills. typical product managers are beholden to things like polity, common courtesy etc.


Janet Jackson is famous for her nipple being broadcast on the superbowl, doesn’t mean she does it every day.

except torvalds has been doing it for decades, not one time on the superbowl

https://youtu.be/bRwleoU5JMY

kinda sums up my point. respect is earnt, and certainly not acting how he does. so hes also a hypocrite.


This video is an ad for Okta. I think you have a copy/paste error.

yea i did. im away from pc now but it was his respect is earnt speech

I’m not familiar with the speech.

what about him is supremely loathable? that he doesn't code?

I wouldn't invite Torvalds to a dinner party, but i think "supremely loathsome" is hyperbolic. He can spew vitriol and abuse at the drop of a hat, or did. Folks on here are kinda split on if "he's earned it" or "it's never ok" sort of thing.

yeah im just not that impressed with him to put up with that. same with rms. they only act like that because of the pedastal people have put them on. watch how far one lines tries to get his tongue up the other linuses backside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfv0V1SxbNA&t=248s&pp=ygUMbG...

seeing people give linus the credit for the kernel whilst ignoring the millions of man hours of other peoples time that made also went it (the majority of linux dev effort actually) reminds me of the numpties that think elon musk is literally knocking out rocket ship schematics and then having the spacex engineers rush off to implement his genius insight




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