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They do new stuff all the time. Ask your AI to draw a gerbil riding a unicycle around Pluto and you'd get an image that hasn't been there before. If by genuinely new you mean without any help from past culture, do humans do that?

For significant pushing the boundaries of knowledge stuff you maybe need different algorithms like AlphaGo move 37 or Alpha Fold protein folding. Though again how often do humans do that?



Humans do that by inventing algorithms like AlphaGo :)

In a more serious note, I think the person you are responding to meant "new" more in line with "novel".

Take a microfluidic chip, for example. Current AI systems can create new flow cell geometry, but cannot come up with the idea for a microfluidic flow cell itself.


Humans are not prompted.


See: advertising & marketing.

Or: political propaganda.

Or: bumper stickers. Or political party emails / calls to action.

Humans are constantly prompted by The Joneses and perceived authority figures (boss, religion, politics, peers, co-workers, influencers, et al.).


Most employed (and contracting) humans are prompted repeatedly every day.


Yes, but also no. If I prompt a graphics artist, "draw me a picture, any style, of a calendar with this day circled in red", you do not have to tell them what a calendar looks like, what the days of the week are, or how many there are, or that days in a month increment sequentially.

Yet if you prompt an AI: https://share.gemini.google/TyUxSnrKmq9h

Also, you probably don't need to tell an artist "don't violate other people's copyrights" while you're at it, though that's perhaps somewhat more debatable than "does the artist know that the day after Thursday is Friday".

This applies equally to all disciplines: AI generated code regularly contains wtfisms that a human would not need to be guided from, or at the very least (more similar to the copyright problems) that experience and knowledge would drive them away from — and permit me to entrust, particularly more experienced — humans with a vague outline of the idea, and trust that the details will get filled in sensibly. "Filling in details sensibly" is where AI hallucinates the hardest.

(And just to head off, "it's a one-off mistake!" Another example: https://share.gemini.google/yE6axJvBDKYE ; another example: https://share.gemini.google/WG6TEBjlyro7 (though admittedly, the calendar is pretty good here, I think "humans have 2 arms" is well within the point I'm making of "stuff I don't need to prompt human artists with") ; and another example: https://share.gemini.google/CIH4QM2teQKf ; and another example: https://share.gemini.google/n76c9eJq1dGe)


You are conflating the specific technical limitations of Nano Banana 2 with the general nature of AI.

This is akin to the "God of the gaps" fallacy, wherein your worldview is going to be repeatedly decimated by advancements in models.

Nano Banana 2 isn't even in the top 5 image models anymore - it's obsolete: https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-image

For example, the same prompt in GPT-Image-2 has no such issue (I even asked for a calendar, just for you): https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9dbdb6-1c00-83eb-b445-9a0608ca79...

And here are your other requests in GPT-Image-2:

- https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9dbe6a-85d0-83eb-8cfb-ce7bd040d0...

- https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9dbedc-fae4-83eb-a9e7-291b58aa73...

- https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9dc1e8-5100-83ed-9d19-2ebe55459d...

- https://chatgpt.com/share/6a9dc4ec-6d44-83eb-8b2f-b82ad1b811...

Google DeepMind is far behind the frontier. Switch to ChatGPT, Claude, or Grok!


Anyone can prompt an AI. Also an AI.


“Hello, how are you?”




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