Agree. One thing missing from Wozniak's comment is that in the end Jobs did whatever he had to and created great products that many of us use. Woz doesn't seem to want to acknowledge the fact that creating great things in life or in business involves stepping on some toes and doing all sorts of shenanigans. Woz certainly didn't have the stomach to be Jobs but Jobs did. And with that you get credit perhaps you don't deserve. But it doesn't matter to many of the daily users of the Mac what Woz did they just want a product that is great that solves a problem that they have.
It's interesting thought that someone can be a Woz and still get jealous as if they need more notoriety and attention for what they have done.
By the way if you look at David Geffen you will see many artist who were made by him in one way or another. Geffen became quite wealthy and more wealthy than I believe any of the artists he managed. But they seemed to be happy with their success and aren't looking to say things like "hey if it wasn't for my talent Geffen who could play an instrument (actually I think he could play something) wouldn't be a billionaire." While it is debatable what Jobs would have been without Woz there is no doubt in my mind that Woz would have been a regular talented engineer if he never met Jobs.
> But it doesn't matter to many of the daily users of the Mac what Woz did they just want a product that is great that solves a problem that they have.
You're implying that the only thing that people care about is the end result; the product that rolls off of the assembly line for their use. If that's the case, then they equally don't care what Jobs did.
If they care about Jobs it is because Jobs was a larger than life figure who was turned into a celebrity. Otherwise they wouldn't really care about Jobs either.
Same with Walt Disney. (Of course he had a TV show..)
In the case of Ray Croc there was Harry Sonnenborn who was given credit (in the business press but not the popular press) as being the financial brains behind McDonalds. But most "normals" have never heard of him. Have you? (Not a challenge just curious..)
In the case of Ray Croc that was another story of business celebrity that made it main stream. Otherwise at McDonalds all anyone would care about is the food, right?
I guess my point is that (some) people get jealous when someone else has something they don't have. In the case of Woz he has money but he is jealous of the fame that Jobs has (over his fame which of course is considerable, right?). If Jobs wasn't so over the top idealized Woz wouldn't say as much is my speculation.
Of course not everyone wants that fame some people are perfectly happy not being noticed and letting someone else get all the attention. Even if that attention isn't deserved.
From the article: " I was an engineer at HP designing the iPhone 5 of the time, their scientific calculators. I had many friends and a good reputation there. I designed things for people all over the country, for fun, all the time too, including the first hotel movie systems and SMPTE time code readers for the commercial video world. Also home pinball games. Among these things, the Apple I was the FIFTH time that something I had created (not built from someone else's schematic) was turned into money by Jobs." It seems that regardless of whether he had met Jobs or not he would have been a tech superstar, rich, and quite probably part of something great.
I doubt he was jealous so much as annoyed at the way he was portrayed in the Jobs film. I was annoyed at how he was portrayed myself, and I don't have any particular axe to grind.
I also seriously doubt the validity of your statements regarding David Geffen and his clients. That's just pure speculation on your part, unless you have some sort of amazing citation(s) you can dig up to support what you said.
None of us will ever know what Wozniak or Jobs would have achieved if they had never worked together.
It's interesting thought that someone can be a Woz and still get jealous as if they need more notoriety and attention for what they have done.
By the way if you look at David Geffen you will see many artist who were made by him in one way or another. Geffen became quite wealthy and more wealthy than I believe any of the artists he managed. But they seemed to be happy with their success and aren't looking to say things like "hey if it wasn't for my talent Geffen who could play an instrument (actually I think he could play something) wouldn't be a billionaire." While it is debatable what Jobs would have been without Woz there is no doubt in my mind that Woz would have been a regular talented engineer if he never met Jobs.